So think about this. How many hours do you have in a day? And have

you had days where you wished you had more hours? Why did you

wish you had more hours? It's all about time

management. How we're, how we're dealing with the gift of time that we've been given

to us. There's a great deal of tendency in our

society to escape and avoid and to make excuses

rather than dealing with the stuff that's going to give him a sense of freedom.

Life is time. We waste our lives and we waste our time

and we get diminishing returns. And this causes a lot of

pain for people. Ending the day when you feel as if you didn't do the

stuff that was the most productive

and then you step back and you do a self audit and you realize, I

wasted time on some things there that could have made a difference in my

life and encouraged me. It causes

anxiety, it causes

ADHD for ourselves. And you

can probably look around you and think about in your own life where

you've had times where you woke up late or you went to

a meeting and then you ended up staying longer in the meeting and you missed

another meeting and it ran into something else and you told yourself you wouldn't be

doing that anymore and you did it again. You know, but why? So today we're

going to talk about, we're going to talk about what leaders do when we see

people that manage their time really well. Here's what they do. Okay, so we have

three major points. Tasks, actions you can take to

do better with your time.

I want to welcome you to the Decide youe Legacy podcast. So we

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I'm your host, Adam Gragg, and I have a co host, Sherman Orr,

who is going to chime in today and we're going to both discuss these

points and give you different insight, different clarity. So

I'm a legacy coach and family therapist, founded Decide youe

Legacy in 2012 and we help businesses and leaders live courageously.

And by the way, everybody is a leader. You have friends, you have family, you

have people you can influence as well. And your

co host is going to give you and share his wonderful experience

as well, which is going to start sharing with you right now. Yes.

You know, as I go through and think about time management,

I Have struggles from time to time. And

one of those struggles that I have is that I can

very easily get anxious about what am I accomplishing

throughout the day, am I doing the best at the end

of the day when I look back and I'm thinking, gosh, did I get anything

accomplished? But then I can, because I do a

lot of calendar work, I can go back and say, I completed

this task. So don't get anxious about yourself. Don't get

fearful about, gosh, am I being as productive as I could be

because I was productive today? Maybe I didn't get everything done

I wanted done, but I began the process,

I'm working on it and trying to avoid that anxiety by saying,

get her done. Stay with your plan, Stay. And I

struggle with making excuses and

procrastinating by saying, it's not really that big of a deal or,

I'll get it done tomorrow, I'll put it off.

I'll struggle by switching things in my calendar that are

not direct appointments with people because

I'll make an excuse to do something else in that time block.

Easy to do, easy to do, and a big deal. And

so every podcast episode, we share

fears that we have faced recently. Why? Because

nothing is more important to your mental health than

facing your fears. And nothing that I have found is more damaging

than playing it safe long term, avoiding

the difficult conversations, the difficult decisions, difficult

investment of your time. And one thing I've done recently

is I started to talk to a therapist.

Yes, I am a therapist and have been for 25 plus years. But that doesn't

mean I deal with my own stuff. And so it doesn't mean I know how

to deal with my own stuff. In fact, I don't know how to deal with

my own stuff. I'll rationalize it and justify it, and I'll say, I don't have

time for that. But it's been a productive investment of

my time. Just getting started. I've talked to him twice and

he's been helpful and it's been good. And mainly because I've gotten

some insight into what I do and insight into why I

procrastinate and why I avoid that can be

really helpful. It's been giving me some hope already. So,

Sherman, what's the fear you faced recently? Well, actually,

it's a little. This is a little interesting, I think, and it's

not my fear per se, but I think

it's God's fear. Now, a lot of people might not know that,

but I did a lot of research and such on the Sabbath and

on Sunday observances and such. And I did

all this research and I found out, you know, why would

God say that you should keep holy the Lord's

day? Why should you have a Sabbath day? And I think

it's because he knew that we would

squander our time. You think about it, there are

six days, as it says in the scripture, six days made for work.

On the seventh, you shall rest. And why? Because God

was afraid that knowing man,

that he would spend all of his time working to make money or do things

like that, to build things, and he would never take time for himself.

He would plan a day to rest.

And so the Sabbath day, I think, is what

God does for us, so that we can kind of keep to a plan.

Sure, it's once every seven days, but I think also

that is about every day, that every day we find some time

to rest, renew and play

relationship with others, that it can't all be about work every day.

And it's important time management. It's the big.

Really, it's the beginning of everything. If that's out

of sync, much of your life is going to be out of sync

because of that. And that is a. When you

think of changes you can make in your life, that

change to get some freedom with

your time, and what I mean is that you, you are.

You own your time, then

there's a big return on investment. Yes, tremendous return.

That. So what, what does that return on investment look like?

I think the return, it's twofold. When we invest

our time, while when we plan well, when we

manage our time well, we basically,

I think, become the human being we're supposed to be, that

we become fearless leaders, that we make the choices we need to

make, and that really, it affects our whole thing. So our whole life,

when a person has a great day,

managed their time well, you can step away

and say, look what I've accomplished. Holy cow, I really

did it. And then that also transfers emotionally into

joy, that it was like, hey, so I've grown in

self confidence that I can do these things. But then I've also got this

emotional component that's like in. In effect, you're like,

congratulations. Yeah, that's a big deal. You did the hard.

Yes, you did the hard. You did the hard. And so we're going to jump

into these three, three principles

that as Sherman and I have discussed and prepared for this

podcast, we see leaders engage in these

three principles when they're managing their time well. And we can see that. I

mean, Sherman is a legacy Coach the newest legacy coach at Decide youe Legacy.

And he has a unique perspective based on his

experience in ministry and leadership and working in

a variety of settings that he's going to bring in and add stories

and add insight. My hope for you, the listener, is that you're going to leave

this today saying, I can make a difference in the way I

do things throughout my day and it's going to be worth it because. Because the

cost of not changing is much greater than the cost of staying the same, which

I find is a huge motivating factor for people to want to change. Really

count the cost and see. Yeah. And we are going

to jump right in and. But before I do that, just give a little more,

a little more. Intro to Sherman. Can you give some background of yourself? I didn't

do it really great job. So I'd be happy to.

Basically I grew up

wanting to know why. I still remember that as a little kid.

Why. And I got a degree in physics,

figuring out the why of the world. But I wasn't

satisfied. And so I thought, you know, what else is there? Why?

And it led me to the ultimate reason. God.

And I also had a burgeoning desire to

serve, to help others. I had seen so

much hardship when I was over in Europe at the time doing

some studies and the difficulty people ran across. I said, I want to help

people and I want to help my local church. So I became a Catholic

priest for 35 years and

served in 11 different parishes. I also taught at the university

at Newman University. I taught high school for seven years.

And so I continue to want to teach others and coach others

in how to be the best they can be to find

a fearless life that they know they're

living their legacy well. So how do priests generally do at managing

their time? Most priests are horrible at managing their

time. I luckily had a great coach early

on that didn't do. Gave me some key

insights on the day to not be a

workaholic. That's my tendency. So I'm just like my

dad was. He was a workaholic. I mean, I still remember Saturdays and

Sundays he was doing airplane stuff.

But I learned that just in the basics of saying you've got

three slots in your day. Make two of those

three work related, the other one, everything else in your life.

So that's what I did. And that really was a beginning. It's big

chunks, but it helped me begin to plan my time and work

it out best. But I'd say most guys, I would

say probably actually most ministers in general, the ones I've

talked to evangelicals and not would say,

yeah, it's very easy to be distracted in the moment

by something else that's shinier or prettier than

the work I need to get done. And you have urgent crises

that are presented to you frequently when you're in ministry.

Yeah, from time to time you have those, and that takes that priority.

But sitting down and looking over a balance sheet,

you know, I'd much rather be polishing my golf

clubs and. But I can only imagine, too, that other people's

urgency is easily put onto you when you're in a helping profession, that they make

it urgent. So it's hard to say no. Yes. It's very. Yeah. Every.

Their. What's important to them is their emergency. And you

may not sense it, but because it's emergency to them, you do.

Yeah. In ministry, you probably do need to stop and take care of them.

So, first point, leaders that manage time, well, they.

They face the hard stuff. Yeah. They stick to a

schedule. They

sure, they're going to find excuses, they're going to pay, presented with excuses,

they're going to be presented with distractions, but they find a way to step back

and determine that this is not the best thing for me to

do with my time. So the other day,

Sherman asked me, in fact, yesterday, he said, is it. Is that the best thing

for you to do with your time? And I've asked him to hold me accountable

because, frankly, I create podcasts to remind

myself of things I need to work on often because it's on my mind.

It's on. But I know it relates to other people as well, but. Right. Because

I have not gotten this thing figured out. In fact, I often. And

I don't say that lightly, I often end my day or my

weekend and think that I didn't make the most productive use of my time.

A lot of it is true because I have avoided. I have. And

I also struggle with perfectionism. But that was

amazing. I mean, to be asked that and then to get to the end of

the day where you're energized makes a huge difference in

my life that I can feel, hey, this. This was something that I did. I

moved the needle. I made some progress here. It didn't go the way I wanted

it to. It didn't go exactly perfectly. It didn't go. There was some letdown

in the process. But a lot of times I procrastinate because I don't want to

be let down. And even I don't create A schedule. Because I don't want to

fail. Right. And but gosh, when you do it,

I can. You come back and you say I can do this. And you feel

energized. Like you said, at the end of the day you can sit there and

say, dang, what a wonderful thing because I use my time

well, which is our most precious resource,

which it is. And I forget that I'm going to feel so much better

after I'm done. And you, practically speaking, just

take the time to remember how you

are going to feel after you've had a productive day. You've

followed through for yourself. You followed through for yourself. You

followed through on your commitments. Right. You've made the hard

decisions, you've done the hard things. You've reached out and faced the

fears that you have in your life. Like, I don't want to go to

talk to a therapist before I go. In fact,

that's when I think about the other things that I'm missing out on and I

could be doing this. That's more productive. I can't play go out with

my friends this evening. If I have it in the evening, I can't. But if

I remind myself of how I feel after and how I will feel long term

then. Exactly. It changes

my. Your roi, your

return on investment of this time,

you won't be able to get it back and you'll realize that, oh my gosh,

I didn't get 25% back. I got 1,000% back. A thousand percent

back. Yeah. That's such a big deal. So to be able to

identify that, you know, take a Google Calendar, everybody has

access to that. Start plugging things in. Start plugging up. Plug

it in. When you're going to get up and when you're going to get a

workout in and when you're going to make your do your

certain parts of your tasks of the day, when you're going to write your podcasts,

you know, I wish I had that in my schedule more often. You're getting going

to get me that. I'll get you there, don't worry. When am I

going to have this team meeting and have come consistency to it.

And I like to look at my schedule the day before and then the week

before to make sure I have this broader view. Like Sunday night, look at it,

tweak some things, what it is, get it set. Yeah. And then say,

hey, the hard part of that is going to be carrying it out. Like I

only put it in there because at some point I believe that it was the

Right thing to do and now I'm going to actually get it done. Exactly.

So second principle that we see that

really great leaders engage in is, is for them

to do the hard. They are playing the long game.

They're determining what is the long game and the reason

why this is an important task and this makes it something that they're going to

engage in more, much more likely to engage in if they realize that it's going

to have a big impact that you talked about with the roi. So they're consistently

saying to themselves, this long term is the most important

thing for me to do. Right.

Yeah. They make that cost benefit decision and they look at their

vision and let that also guide them as they're looking down. I think

back to my own experience that, that

I had air conditioning, the complete air conditioning of a 90,000 square

foot building go out and I was like, oh my gosh.

Learning about all the fun stuff about H vac and learning

how expensive it was. I had to raise

$3.5 million in about a three year window.

And to get that done, I needed to have

the confidence of my parishioners and the confidence of the

donors and that I was doing a good thing. And to do that

meant I had to meet with a lot of people that

weren't people I regularly met with and different groups that I wouldn't

regularly meet with because they didn't need me because I have a full day already.

But I had to make more time, I plan better

so that I could get to all these groups and explain to them this is

what's going on and I need your help and I can't get this done without

you. And in regret,

I mean, amazingly, shockingly,

I raised that 3.5 in two years

instead of three. And I would never have been able

to do that if I didn't make that investment of

time management and use that resource wisely,

get everybody I needed to get on board and move forward. How

did it feel once you reached that goal? Can you, can you think

back at that time and describe how it impacted you? I can

tell you at first I was dumbfounded and then I was

proud of what I had been able to accomplish,

but with my parishioners. So it was a great moment

of, I would say, really

happiness because at the time it was like,

oh my gosh, we've done this. And it was energizing for

me to go keep going forward because then we're all in this

together and let's keep moving forward. That's a big deal.

So you Think about, talked about the cost benefit

analysis. So one, one way to play the long

game and to get yourself motivated for the long game is

to do a simple activity where you for 10 minutes write down

on a free flow in a journal. Just write it

down. If, if you make these corrections

to do the hard, manage your time well, what's the result going to be in

a year if you do that like and dream? So it's going to impact

you financially, it's going to impact your health, it's going to impact your

spiritual life, your relationships. You have more free time, you're more engaged, you're giving people

your attention rather than being distracted. All those benefits

that you can see coming just takes 10 minutes. But you got to set a

stopwatch and write it down and do it, be honest

and do it. And then what you do is you take 10 minutes and this

forces your brain. It's like when you ask your brain a question,

it has no, it has this

incredible ability to

do what it's told to do, like an instrument. It does its job

because its job is to go ahead and give you the information that you're requesting

of it. That's why some people, you'll find, don't ask me that question. You know,

people get uncomfortable with questions because they know that they have. Their

brain's going to not turn it off if you get asked that question. So you

know, or they, they say, they lie and say, well, I don't have an

answer, they don't want to answer the question, then that's putting them in a position

where they're going to be. It's called cognitive dissonance. There's uncertainty within

themselves about this situation now, so you put them in an uncomfortable situation. It's

not wrong to ask people questions. In fact, it's one of the most helpful things

we can do as we care about people. So you second part of this is

that you ask yourself, the question is, if I don't manage my time well,

how will that impact my life in a year? I continue

to avoid, I continue to procrastinate, I continue

to make excuses and listen to those excuses and go

down the easy path and not do the hard thing well, it's going to impact

my relationships in this way, it's going to impact my health in this way, it's

going to impact my time, free time in this way. And then you look at

those lists and you determine which one you want.

And most likely you're going to look at those lists if you have the courage

to do this activity and you're going to look at those lists and say, hey,

I don't want this, this list. You know, it's a similar thing is like if

I keep drinking, what will I get? If I stop drinking? Here's what I'll

get. You know, that motivates people to make some big changes and it's going to

channel your energy into playing the lawn game in your situation

and it's going to encourage you to start spreading that to other people even because

you know the results you can actually get. Practical thing you

can actually do. Can you think of other practical things people do to get their

mindset shifted into the long game mentality?

Actually, you mentioned alcoholic, and I was just thought about this

for a second. Is that so? Time. Alcohol and

time are both resources. Alcoholic abuses

that resource. A workaholic abuses that

resource, also time. But

I think that if you were to start

that journey of sticking to a schedule, maybe just doing

it for one week, write yourself out a schedule, know that it

can be malleable, but you got to try that discipline of sticking to

it for at least a week and then keep those commitments unless something else

really big comes along, like an emergency. But you'll find, I

think at the end of the week, again, like we keep saying, you will find

that you are

achieving, accomplishing much more and then you'll gain

your great self confidence and there'll be that pleasant

feeling of success that I did it. One week,

one week. That's all. You think you could have that kind of return? Yeah, I

think so. Definitely. In one week. Yeah. Okay. For the person that wants to avoid

it, I say start that journey with your example

journal. Because if you don't start right there because that's going to

be a great motivator and a great way to think about life that

will get you on the right foot. You don't want to. Like the Chinese proverb,

if you twist your foot on the first step of a thousand mile journey, you're

going to limp all the way there. All the way.

While walking the entire Great Wall of China. Exactly. Limping the whole

way. Yeah. That's really good feedback. You know, have you ever

seen somebody or experienced this where. And I

bet you have where you, you notice

somebody, they're a good leader, they seem happy, yet they're pretty

rigid and they almost like had this

sense of rigidity that you don't want to ask them for time. Yes,

they get that. And then, then you do ask them for time and then they're

actually, they're Very flexible there, but they present in a way where it's kind

of, hey, you know, they're, they're not flexible. I mean,

I've been pleasantly surprised. They make time for you. They make time. I think, I

think people that are in ministry can have that. You know, they have so many

other problems, so they're not going to make time for me. And you can be

surprised or somebody that's a really high flying professional and they make time for

you. And there's something that I have seen great leaders do is they

own their own attention. They make it there and they see it as

their property, but they're very generous with their property in the right

situations. Exactly. So that's what I see

it happen. I mean, they like if you were,

if you were getting ready to go to work and you went out to your

car, you started your car and it's running and then you pull away and you

realize, I left my coffee and I left my lunch. So you stop,

but you leave your car running, go and get your lunch, get your coffee. But

then somebody took your car because it was running. I mean, it'd be pretty stressful.

But what if they brought it back and they said, hey, you know,

I just wanted to take your car to the gas station because mine ran out

of gas and I need to fill up my tank. I mean, you would probably

still be bothered by that because your car is your property. Like you,

you own that and you take care of your car

and you want to take ownership of your

time as well, because it's yours. Something to take very

seriously, take yourself seriously, take your time seriously, and

we can work on that. Because, you know, if we are willing to do the

hard and we're willing to play the long game,

then it's going to take this. Another level that I see great leaders do

is where they take it so seriously that that provides a willingness to

say no. That provides the willingness to say, I can't do this. I can do

this. They have good filters in their life. Yeah. I have a

great story that you remind me of, and that goes back

35, 40 years. I met

one of the foremost doctors in the world

at the time, Dr. Jerome Lejeune. And I was at a conference with

him. He was testifying lots of cases. He

was from France. He was coming over here testifying for lots of cases.

And I had a question for him. He had worked a lot on

down syndrome and working on the whole chromosome question.

And we were in a huge crowd. There was probably

15, 20 people surrounding him. He was closed in,

and he looked at me and he said, do you have a question? I said,

yes, I do. Here it is. And his attention was

right on me that whole time, even though everybody else was trying to grab his

attention, that was a man who was

in charge of his attention, and he

gave it there perfectly instead. And really realizing

that was important for me to teach me to say, don't

let the shiny objects distract you

from what you need to be paying attention to. So you didn't

think he would have time for you, but he surprised you. Yes. And paid

attention to every word you were saying. Yes. You remember that

conversation 40 years later? Because it was so much

intention. Yeah. Yeah. He was. That he owned

his. That property of his intention. And it was just. We

can learn that. We could learn a great lesson from that. And just like you

said, your attention is your property. Most of us don't think of

it that way, that it is something as valuable as your home, as

your car. So don't leave it running outside with the

keys in it. Right. Take good care of it. Yeah. Don't leave your house

doors open, unlocked all day. Yeah. Yeah, that's.

And nobody can distract you unless you let them.

You can own your emotions as well. It's like nobody can make you feel

anything unless you own that feeling. Somebody

called you Sherman, a

huge, fat man. You would laugh at him because you're not.

You wouldn't really take it seriously. Hopefully. Yeah. You'd be like, they're

crazy. But. Or if somebody

said, it's like, you know, you see a drunk person that's

cussing at you and you kind of laugh it off. Yeah. You know, because you're

owning the fact that you're not. That you're, you know, you're. You didn't do

anything. Doesn't deserve to get cussed at. So it doesn't even really bother you. You

can learn to not give away your power, not give away your time, not give

away your emotional health, because you're owning it yourself. And

to do this, I have some buddies who own businesses, and

they've encouraged me to read a book called buy back your time. And there's an

activity in buy back your time. Dan Martell. Good book to read. Recommend it. And

activity where you track your time. I believe it's for two weeks. Maybe it's for

two days. I think it's for two weeks. You track every 15 minutes of your

time and how you spend it. So create a spreadsheet. Just

write down you made a podcast, made

phone calls. Saw a client, whatever it is, you're just gonna give yourself some insight

into how you're using that time in that period. And you got to be honest

about it, because if it was, you know, worried for 15 minutes, then you got

to write that down. You did Nothing but watch YouTube videos.

Yeah, you write. You got to write that down. So you're getting a picture or

had lunch, and that's a good thing. You know, had lunch, relaxed, chilled,

whatever. But you're putting it down in a way where you can see some patterns

in your life. And those patterns are great. Greatly valuable. But

why do I not want to do this, Sherman? Because it's accountability.

Yes. Self accountability. Like, I look and talk to you and say that

little time management, pros and cons things. You know, what do you get if you

invest in it? What do you. What do you. What's the cost? You know, that

is kind of intimidating for me because it would be painful to look at it.

Yeah, it would. It could scare you. It could absolutely scare me

right there. But that's a practical activity you can engage in. Check out that

book as well. So there's something that

I've seen happen with people, though, that I got to actually identify. And

over the years, coaching people,

I can pretty much predict one thing that I'm going to get from

every client, and it's resistance to change.

It's going to come out in procrastination

and of all kinds of different forms. It can even come out in anger

resistance. And so people will say, and they'll come back

again with the same problem again and again. You know, they come to coaching and

they have one big goal in mind. And that big goal can be some external

goal oftentimes, like, I want to be. I want to

have more revenue, and I want to increase the amount of business

by 20%, 50%. So they have a goal in mind,

and then they determine some actions that they can take. One of them

oftentimes is owning their time, but they keep coming back with the

same, I can't do it. You know, it's not going to work. Or I

tried, or I didn't have time to do that, so they're not taking

action. And it used to frustrate

me. I would tell you, it used to be like, well, why did you get

it done? You know, so what are you paying for here? What are we doing

here? I mean, my success is. It'd be real selfish thing

sometimes, but, like, hey, you know, I gotta help. And I would say this in

a way, I Felt like it would make sense. But I used to say things

like, you're. You're my best referral source. Yeah. So you got to get

this done. Yeah. Your success is my success. And that's very true and

I think in a very positive way. Yeah, you can say it in a positive

way. But what I found is often when they keep coming back and they got

something that they're not making any progress on. And I've seen this again and again.

I've seen this with. With so many clients. I've seen it with lots of friends

with. I've seen them make breakthroughs. Is they have this moment

where they realize that trying is not gonna actually work.

It's not gonna actually work because the reason that they're procrastinating goes deeper

and. And it's not hitting at the core issue that's actually holding them back. And

that core issue that's holding them back is going to be connected to something

that's unrelated to the current situation. But they're bringing in history

and pain and stuff they haven't actually faced in their

life that they've avoided that they're not actually addressing. And when they address that

stuff, they can make the breakthrough. Right, Exactly.

So, like what I'm doing, going to a counselor is

if I can remember that I have reasons that I

get triggered in situations that remind me of stuff in the past that's going

to help me to be courageous, more courageous in those situations.

To go and be in those situations that trigger me. Yeah, exactly. In a smarter

way. Yeah. I go back, of course I'm old, but

if anybody were to remember the most famous line of any great

movie from the 1980s, it would be Wayne's World.

And I go back to the one thing he's Wayne's

World. Wayne's World with Garth and somebody else.

But the blonde haired one is asked a question

and he never talked much, but his only response was,

we fear change. And I think that's

one of the best lines for humanity. I'm going to stay stuck in

this problem because I. I fear that maybe

I know that this is what I need to deal with.

And so we fear change, dude. And that's our job, is to help them deal

with the core stuff. So a business comes in and they have a surface level

problem, and it's not the core problem, they

say it's, we have this one bad employee who throws everything

off and he's just a but, or she's just a but, you

know, but the reality is that's A symptom of a deeper issue

of accountability and trust and communication

and goals and vision. And we get at that core stuff. And that's so exciting

because if they correct that, then they can move forward and have healthy

relationships, have healthy dynamics in their business, not make it about performance,

make long term change. That's going to change not only their lives, but the lives

of the people they work with and their families and their own joy and the

impact they have on the world. Right. Which is super powerful in the whole

process. So let's go ahead and sum this up. If you want to be a

good leader who manages your own time, you want to face the hard.

Yep. Got to do something hard. So think about things you're going to do

that are hard, that you're putting off, and you're going to put that on your

calendar and start making some progress. You're going to play the long game and

clarify that. So you keep that at the forefront. You remember how you feel after

you do something that's hard because you're playing the long game, because it's leading you

towards the vision. And you're going to own your attention

and not give it away to other people. Right. Not a good thing. No. You

get to choose who you're going to give it away to. And there's great people

to give it away to. Yes, there's. So, yeah. And you know, something I've noticed

about Sherman, playing golf with him twice is

he's very good at giving his attention and in a

way where you feel heard and valued. And

if you think of it as you owning your attention, you.

You get to show love to other people when you pay attention to them.

Yeah. And by you giving it and not owning it and giving it to things

that are distractions, it's taken away your ability to love other people.

Yes, exactly. Yeah. Crazy, crazy cost benefit

analysis of that right there. So wonderful. I know. So if you

would like to check out a podcast that we did back,

I don't know, a year ago, month ago. No, it's probably a year ago, but

it's on making every 15 minutes count. And I go in deeper into

that concept of tracking your time and owning your time and

seeing how you can take ownership of even every 15 minute block and you can

do significant productive

actions in 15 minute chunks of time. Yeah. Which is so cool.

You can get a good, you can get a workout in. You know,

you can get some real good exercise in. In 15 minutes. Yeah. Can you, can

you make progress on your golf game in 15 minutes? Yes, you can. You can

make progress on your golf in 15 minutes. So your attention is your

property. You'll make my day if you apply some action

from today. What was one tip that you heard from Sherman? One insight you heard

from Sherman or myself that you can apply by the end of the day to

day. Make a commitment. Do it. Teach it to

somebody else. Put it in your calendar. To decide means you're eliminating

other options. Your legacy is your impact your life has on other people.

There's no positive change until you decide to

change. Decide today. Your legacy depends on

it. I want to close the way I always do. Make it your mission

to live the life today, Sherman, that you want to be remembered for 10

years after you're gone. Sherman. Do hard things, Adam. Do hard

things. You decide your legacy. Nobody else.

I appreciate you greatly and I'll see you next time.

Sam.