Something I've noticed that good and great

leaders do is they step back from their life and they're able to

gain self awareness and they're doing this intentionally and they have

practices to make sure that this is happening by getting feedback from others,

by talking to people and clarifying it as they process it,

and also by journaling. I've seen this consistently

that a lot of people that I admire and respect that seem to have some

insight, they have practices of gaining insight through their own writing

and looking at it and analyzing it and being willing to do that to put

it out on paper. So today we're going to talk about this

wonderful insight gaining activity that I see a lot of leaders engage

in of journaling.

I have a special guest who's been doing this for over four years this who

has really great insight today and I'm going to introduce him shortly. But I

want to welcome you to the Decide youe Legacy podcast. So the topic today is

on journaling and I'm Adam Gragg. I'm a legacy coach

and founder of Decide youe Legacy. And I'm here with

both Nick Bertram and Kelsey Torkelson.

Kelsey is an assistant legacy coach at Decide youe Legacy. And again, I'm going to

give Nick some time to introduce himself in just a moment. Before I do that,

I want to share with you a fear I faced recently. And

the fear is to actually not be a control freak.

And when I'm speaking to a group and when I'm

actually engaging a client, in the past I would be

scripted and over prepared. And as I

have through my own journaling and reflecting, I've realized that I do best

when I let go and just let it flow. And I feel

like I've made some mistakes recently. It was really after speaking on Friday last week

that I'm like, I have got to just let go because there were times when

I sort of was scripted and I know that it's not

nearly as enjoyable for me, but it's a really scary thing. I have to trust

God with it by stepping back and I don't know what's going to come out

of my mouth then. It could be really bad. It could be really scary to

other people. I mean, but it's that letting go process. The reason I want to

share a fear is because I don't find much more beneficial to your

mental health than actually taking risks.

Good calculated risks where you're stepping out and not much more

damaging than playing it safe and just going with

the flow, the security mentality.

So Again, journaling, really big topic. There's

a lot of benefits to it and you're going to get some great insights. So

some of the benefits are clarity and some are. Some are really seeing how you're

thinking. And it's a great way to remember things that are important to

you. It's a great way to have a conversational tool when you talk about your

journaling entries with other people. It's also really great to

look and remember what you were writing in the past to see how you're growing.

And there's some cost to not being self reflective. I mean, stuck in the same

old stuff. Not changing, not

remembering, forgetting. There's like

a lot of stuff that happens that's positive when you step back and have that

clarity in your life. So, Nick Bertram, go ahead and introduce yourself and

what you've done in your. Anything you want to share that would be beneficial

for the crowd to hear. Okay. My name is Nick Bertram. I'm

70 years old. I'm married. Yeah. Yes,

Adam just turned 52. 52 yesterday.

Yesterday. But, yeah, I'm 70

years old. I live in Great Bend, Kansas. I've got

a wife, three kids, a

stepson and two daughters and six grandchildren.

So all delightful human beings

work for the Same company for 52 years

now. That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty cool. That is amazing.

That's a rare deal right there. So the Same company for

52 years. 52 years, yeah. Wow. You're still,

you're still working there? I. Yes, I am still hanging

on. So I'm still there. Yes. Yeah. And quite a

journey. That's like another. It's very pretty, fascinating thing. We talk somebody

how a company has changed over 52 years. That would be

very interesting. Yeah, it's a. It's a journey.

And every part of it has been,

well, most of it in leadership positions. So, yeah, a lot

of self reflection in that.

Yeah. Okay. So. Well, you

know, there are days when I journal and days when I don't.

And I'm not as consistent as Nick. I would say he's

probably the most consistent person that I know over the last four years.

And the days that are. I can see a

correlation. And the days that are really good and when I'm really willing to

put pen to paper but do it honestly and engage in it honestly.

So. So we're gonna jump right in and get to some

questions here. All right, good. So, Nick, what first

inspired you to start journaling four years ago?

Well, I had signed up with

Decide youe Legacy With Adam to talk about

or to work out some problems, really. Just the whole.

Well, a couple of things. Getting older and the career

going away, I could see that was. Was

coming to an end in the near future and that

I was probably a workaholic. No, I was a

workaholic. So that

identity was wrapped up in that. And I could. That really bothered me.

And so. And then some relationship problems. So

originally, that's why I came to Adam. And through that,

it's pretty easy for me to talk about that

stuff with Adam, But I could sense that, you know,

my thoughts were kind of scattered, and I don't know how clear

they were to me. They weren't. And not

really taking the time to think through some of that

stuff. So I started

journaling as a method of slowing down and

taking a closer look at what was bothering me and maybe some of

the answers to some of those things, which otherwise

I was just too scattered, really. And I remember talking to

Adam about that in one of the sessions about just

the effort it took to slow down and think about things

instead of just letting them go and go to the next thing. But writing

them down really brought some. Where you have to

actually think about it and slow down. To put the words on paper

was extremely helpful. I started journaling when I

was six because I had. My parents brought me to a

psychologist when I was 6, and the guy encouraged me to journal my

thoughts. And it was a lot of drawing that I did at that time. And

then when I was a sophomore in college, I was struggling, and my parents sent

me to a counselor. I came back from school, and that counselor encouraged me to

journal. So I was probably 19 or

close to 20. I was 19 or 20. And that's when I started doing it

consistently. And I ended up burning the first, like,

five years of my journals one time because I was embarrassed when I wrote

them. I was embarrassed about what I read in them. And I decided I didn't

want to ever want anybody to see this stuff because it was really.

It was okay. I regret doing that, but I was just in this mode. It

was like five years ago, So I did it. So I can't do

anything about it, but I did it anyway. I've always been. I love

journaling. I'm a girl. We have diaries back then, and that's what

we had. So was there a person

that nudged you towards writing down and telling you that

you should journal? Yeah, Adam did. He suggested that I start

a journal, which I had never done. I thought

about it through the years, but Never took the. Never took the time. But

yeah, Adam decided that that would be a thing

that could help me get kind of some clarity

on things and settled into my thought process.

So, yeah, I started then. That's January. January

22nd of

21. Wow. Yeah. So you were

66 and you started a new habit.

Yeah, yeah, it was. You can change or you can.

A lot of the clients that I. That we challenge, they take a little

while to get started. And then part of our process in coaching is

to remind them that they made this commitment because Nick made the commitment. It wasn't

me that I didn't make the commitment. It was a challenge that made. But

he started right away. I remember it was just. He was in. And then he'd

been so passionate about it, which is why we wanted to have him on the

podcast a couple times here with this topic, which, by the way, this is one

of the most. We did an episode before on journaling, and it's one of our

most popular. That was probably two plus years ago, and it

still gets significant downloads every month. So I knew it was going to be a

good one to have and redo. That's good. And it.

Yeah, you just take action and then excited about it. Like you have

at times you been a proponent of doing a decide your legacy branded

journal, which is still on the radar and everything, but you had that

excitement. Yep. So a lot of times we think that it

has to be complicated. Can you tell me and describe

to the audience what your journaling routine looks like

today? Well, to start with, it can be as

complicated or as simple as you want it, and

usually that depends on the day.

I have not. I was looking through the books and there are some days

where I maybe wrote three or four sentences. It

was late getting back or from somewhere or something like that.

Some days it was more. But

it doesn't have to be complicated. I do mine in the

evening. Not sure if

that's the best way, but I do it because I got the day in back

of me that I can think through what

happened during the day and some of the things I want to correct the

next day or work on. So that's what I do.

It usually takes like between 10 and

20 minutes. Sometimes I'll start and leave off for a little

bit, few minutes and then come back to it.

And like I say, sometimes it looks like a weather report,

sometimes it looks like the next novel. But you're pretty flexible

with it, though. Yeah, I think that's the key to it, really.

You have to be pretty Pretty easy on

yourself because you're not always going to be writing the

next great novel. Right? Right. Sometimes it's

just a. Yeah, I. My dog bit

me, doesn't like me anymore, or the weather's

great. It's. It's just whatever. That's the,

that's the. The beauty of the thing. Because

there'll be days when you want to do more and you got something to work

through. And there's some days when things may be all

right. So when you journal, do you find that you feel a certain way

when you're done, typically versus when you started, or is it

any patterns there on how it impacts your moods?

Well, it's a routine. So you feel good that

you accomplish things. And when you. Sometimes.

Yes. When you work through an issue, when you're thinking about

it and you write it down, you take the time to write it down. You

see it there. One thing about journaling,

it's pretty easy to lie to yourself if you're not

writing it down. But if you're sitting there writing

those words down, you're.

You're a little more prone to be honest because you're going to look

back or you're going at those. Those words, and

it just makes you. It makes you a little

more honest, I think, with yourself. That's a big deal right there. Yeah.

It makes you honest with yourself. Yeah, it helps. You

can't just tell yourself some

falsehood. You're writing it down. So it's

more meaningful, I guess. I don't know how to explain it, really.

How often do you go back and read what you have written?

Reread? Oh, not a great deal. But

usually if I come to a stumbling block, like I've

got some problem that I recognize that it's

probably one I've had before. Right. Because

these things just keep reoccurring to one extent or another.

Maybe a different situation. But I'll go back and look at it

and see what I was thinking. Read back

through like a year ago or two years ago, find the

same date and read those

entries and see what I was thinking and

what was happening then. It's interesting,

for one thing, and it does help

you get a sense of how far you've came

in dealing with some of the issues. Doesn't mean you

cured them all, but you do get a sense

that, yeah,

it's okay, you made it through it.

And how. How would you. Just curious. Out of that question.

Like, how would you say this could benefit a business leader?

Well, just it. It does me. It gives

you a sense if you're making a

decision or involved in. In decision

making or especially with.

Let me. Let me. If you're making those decisions and all of them

got to do with people, for the most part, that's what a leader does.

It's not usually much of anything except dealing with people.

And so when you are forced.

I shouldn't say forced. When you take the opportunity to write

down some of those ways of dealing with it and you think

about. And there are several examples

I could give, but where you actually have to think about how

you're going to deal with that guy or that situation.

Pretty helpful. Does he have to put it down in words?

Sometimes it helps dealing with people, and that's most

leadership is people issues.

Did that answer your question? Yeah, it does. I find myself

journaling when I'm discouraged sometimes because

it. I get driven to journal when I'm.

When something doesn't go the way I want it to go. Yeah, yeah. And then

I look at it and it's not as bad. I mean,

but most of the time I don't want to journal. Most time I do not.

It's an intentional act. It's not something I look forward to most of the time.

Initially, it's like going to the gym. It's like I don't. I don't really go

enjoy going to the gym. I do enjoy going on run sometimes, and I like

the book I'm listening to or whatever, but I don't really enjoy certain things, but

I know most of the time I feel better afterwards. Yeah,

journaling, it's like, it helps you

get your thought processes clearer. For me,

it's like when I get them out on, like they're all jumbled in my head,

but then when I write them down, they're. They're clear. And it helps

me understand my thoughts better and my thinking. Yeah, you organize.

It's like metal workouts really,

where if you go to the gym, you're working out to get to a

certain point. And the same way with

journaling, when you're going through that exercise, it's

the same thing. Sometimes. Yeah, it's. You don't want to

do it because sometimes you just don't want to take the time.

Sometimes you don't want to face up to some of the nonsense that

you're dealing with. You know, that is a major. A major point

that can motivate, inspire people. As you go into your job and you feel

like it's a clumsy old mess. Yeah. There's all these projects and all these

situations and all these loose ends, basically. And you

take the time to say, I'm going to start to organize this a little bit.

It's like it's cleaning up things in your mind, and then all of

a sudden you see you can make a decision, a better decision. It's clear

for you, and it relieves a lot of stress.

But it may not seem like it's going to have that much of an impact

because if I put down pen to paper or whatever, I don't know what I'm

going to write. I mean, ultimately, I don't know what I'm. Right. Exactly. I don't

know. I'm just kind of hoping. Ye. It would be like the word

music. You know, it comes from the Greek gods

somehow. Like muse. The muse. Like you don't know. You're. You're. It's a

creative process that comes out very worthy of the

time you put into it. Yeah. In the process is when you start.

Once you start. Right. You may have a specific thing, but

usually time you get done, it's you.

You've. You found some additional. Yeah.

Additional things to add to it. Yeah. You know, and just to encourage you guys

listening too, it's like, I. I really think you go through your journal and then

you can start organizing it after you've written it.

You can start shifting and rewriting things. You can cross

things out, you can check mark things. You can do whatever you want with it

because no one else is reading it for but you. It's only for you.

That's a safe place for you to go. And if somebody reads someone

else's journal, I find that to be pretty discouraging

to think that would happen. I mean, I'm not saying it doesn't happen. It does,

but. But, like, it should be very sacred

to you. And then it feels like that it does. Yeah. Well, it's good

because no one's read your journal to violate that. Right. So I hope not. No.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. But I do think it's great to see

in your journal stuff you want to share with somebody else. I've done that before.

I write a lot. I love to write. And whenever I'm

going through some hard things, I'll write them and then

I will reread them and I'll be like, hey, you know what? I think I'm

going to read this to Jeff, my husband,

and it helps me under. And he's like, oh, okay. I didn't know all that

was going on in your head. That is really exciting. That's great. I would

encourage you back to say, like, look at your journal and see what is in

there. That would be encouraging or helpful to talk to somebody else about because

I can promise you that there probably are things in there there that like I

could talk to my wife about it. Maybe it'll improve your marriage or improve your

leadership. Like I, I was journaling about you today, you know. Do

you want to read it? No. I had something I want to share with you.

Really? What breakthroughs have surprised you along the

way as you've journaled? Well, I,

I've thought about that and I don't.

There's nothing really outstanding, I think, except one thing

I think I've tried to, as I've

developed in the writing is be.

Put more. Put more emphasis on

the positives or gratitude things.

Some people keep a, you know, that's a whole nother subject,

I guess because some people keep a separate journal for that. Just the gratitude

part of their. But I don't do that. I put

usually and not every day, but usually I put some

things down in my journal that I'm thankful for. And I've

noticed that my attitude

changes with that because now during the day I. If

I think about there's something that I, you know, that worked

out right. Or I'm thankful for, then it becomes something that

I remember to write down in my journal. So it's,

it's a change in the way you think really. Because

if you come at. I noticed that reading through some of the earlier journals,

there's more negative things than positive. And

as the process has continued now

there's positive and I think that's purposeful on my

part just because there's still some stuff that I

didn't like what happened here or this and I need to do this. But there's

a lot more positivity than negativity. That's pretty

amazing. Which is good. Yeah, it is helpful. Yeah.

Yeah. You probably get excited about it. I, I think I would get more excited

about if I was consistent as you because I do get excited about things more

when they're consistent. Well, there's. There's. You do. But there's

times when. Yeah, I'd rather not write. I mean I think that's just part of

it that. But usually I'm.

It's. It's good to get it down on paper type of feelings. Do you

ever have times where you sit down to journal, you think you're going to do

it for 10 minutes but then you end up writing for a half an hour.

Oh, yeah, that's. That does happen. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, that's. That's pretty

interesting. Sometimes you gotta force yourself to fill half a

page, and sometimes it takes another page. So you. And you don't want

to stop. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's pretty. That's pretty cool. It

starts flowing. How do you explain that? Like, that's really interesting because

it's like the idea is you started it and then, like, you out. Where'd these

come from? Well, I think that's the beauty of the thing, because of the process

makes you. Makes you

clarify that stuff where it may be just a jumble in your head when

you sit down and you really don't know what you're going to write. But through

the process, it becomes clear. Yeah, maybe what you need

to do or what you're thinking or just letting some of those feelings out, I

think is part of it too.

Well, you've kind of already answered this, but have there been times when you

didn't feel like journaling but you did it anyways? I

did it anyways. You did it anyways. Persistence is the key to success.

Yes, it is. So, okay, what about. It's super

late, you're super tired, and Denise wants you to just go

to bed. Do you still journal?

I do, but it'll become short because

like two or three sentences and I have.

I was looking at that very few times when I put an explanation.

Listen, I was gone all day or got company and

didn't get it done. I put an explanation in the journal just because I want

to satis. Then I don't want to consider myself a

slacker in a year when I look back. But no.

Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes, yeah, it's difficult, but that's what I say. You got to give

yourself some. Some. Some slack when you're. When you're doing this

or become a. Too much of a chore. I don't know if you can do

anything. Well, long term, when you're not giving yourself grace.

Yeah. In the process. Yeah. The black and

white thinking isn't good. If you're not giving yourself grace, then you're.

Yeah. Yeah. That's going to be hard to keep it up. If you don't. It

will. And that goes against what we are teaching people. To live

in the sevens. That's right. Yeah. That's right. You won't do it unless you're a

seven. Yes. Some days you're an eight. Some days you're a nine bit. Some days

you're a two. Yep. And you Just got it done, though.

What would you say to someone who is wanting to start journaling but they didn't

know where to start? I think it's

something that you just sit down and like we

said, give yourself some grace, some. Some room, and just

start putting down whatever you feel. Put down what you're

thankful for and start there, because

that usually will lead to more.

If you. If you just put down the three things you're thankful for

that day, or you put down. Start with, yeah, it

was cold out today, or whatever it. Once you get

started, I think pretty.

So in your career, being in the

construction industry and then being around a lot of other leaders and being in

leadership positions, and how would you talk to somebody who's

like, really closed off to it? Because it's not macho

and it's not, you know, it's too emotional. It's

too. It's gonna. They're so negative about it. I mean, not that they would even

ask you to help them journal. I'm not saying that. But what would you say

to somebody like that? Well, I would say that those

things help you to work through

today's problems or tomorrow's problems.

Most people, when they initially think

about. And I've had this discussion with people at work because they had listened to

some of the other podcasts about

journaling and had that discussion.

And most of them, when you have that discussion, will say, yeah,

that probably be something I would find useful because it

would help me in. In the.

In my work life, just trying to get organized

and think about the next day's activity. And some of them

consider it just a thing to organize their. Their business. You

know, like, tomorrow I've got a. Or today I

did this and this. So they can look back. It's a record of what they

did. But through that, I think that

you start to put down some more some of the struggles that

people in the construction business go through or anybody, really. But

could you confidently say to somebody who said, like, I'm so stressed about my job

and my team and I'm running this company and I don't know how, I'm overwhelmed

and everything. Could you confidently say, like, if you journaled every day for 10 minutes,

it would help you? I could. You could, yeah, I would. I would

say that, yeah, without hesitation. I thought you would say that.

If you sit down and do that, you'll discover

something. You'll be. It'll probably could improve your

marriage and your relationship with your kids and

who you hire, who you don't hire, what Decisions you make, big

decisions, money. It helps you think through that because you can

get so tied up in the daily grind of

business that you forget about some of those things that really matter. Your family,

some of those friendships. Just a slew

of things that will. It's easy to get. It's

easy to let those things slide if you get so tied up in business.

And a lot of leaders do, they get so wrapped up in their business. But

sitting down and writing something about it would.

Would help get centered back on why you're doing it in

the first place. And make it not so important. It's not your value, your

identity, though. So today some people were asking me.

We went out for lunch for my birthday, and they asked me what my goals

were for the next year. And journaling would be a really good goal. I need

to remember those that I shared with you, Kelsey, what I shared earlier, but. Cause

I don't. I think one was. Anyway, don't share all those. But

one of them was kind of a silly one. Oh,

you remember what they were. You have to tell me. All right. You gotta remember

those. We'll keep. Yes, yes. Are there

specific questions or pro prompts that you go to for

your journaling, or do you just start writing?

Well, I tried when I first started out, it was just a

blank page type journal. And then I saw one that

had different questions, like, what was your

mood today? Which made you think about that a little bit.

What are you thankful for? What affirmative

thing can you say about yourself? Things

like that. And that's kind of

handy. It's nice because it forces you to think about those

things. And then when you know you're going to answer those the next day, that's.

That's helpful. But anymore, I just have a blank page

and start writing. I always try to include, like I said,

some gratitude thing because that usually leads to others.

That's what I do too, in mine is I have like a. I like

to look at. What I'm grateful for is. Adam also

taught me that, because if we need. And then it makes you look for

things intentionally. And when you're looking for good things,

it's hard to see the bad things. Sorry. You'll see the good

things. Yeah, it's what you start looking for. You'll start. You'll see.

So, dude, I remember some times that I was so low in my life, you

know, going through hard stuff, and that was the last thing I

would ever want to do and have the least amount of hope and, like, it's

not going to Help me. And even then, it would just help me a little

bit. It would just. The journaling and the gratitude part of the

journaling would just. It would just help me a little bit. And I. I would

even not even want to admit that it would actually help me because I was

so stuck, but it was helping me, you know,

a little in a little growth is a lot of growth over time as it

multiplies. My experience, though, is a little different. I find it

easier to write when I'm in a situation

where things have been difficult or that when everything

seems like it's going well, you can write about

it. This doesn't seem as

urgent. Maybe. Maybe urgent. I don't know if urgent is the right word,

but a little different. Almost less

creative. Yeah. Because you're not coming from. Everything's

good. There's just whatever. But, yeah, if things are rough.

Yeah, I can write. I can write. I need this now.

Yeah, I need this. Yeah, exactly. Sometimes I get down

and I'm writing so fast and I'm thinking so fast, my hands can't keep up

with my. My. Yeah. It forces you to slow down.

It does. Because your thinking is going so

fast, and the writing really does make you slow down. Like I

mentioned earlier, that's a. That was a key to some of the

struggles that I was going through with just slowing down enough to really think through

it without. Without.

Without that it just easier to skip over stuff.

And anybody out there listening that says they don't have enough time for this, just

look at your screen time on your phone. As Kelsey would say. Yes. And you

do have time for this. Oh, yeah. Yes. That's my answer for everyone.

When they say they're too busy. I was like, let me check your screen time.

And that's. That is a great. My friends do

not like me because I ask them that a lot. I'm too busy to play

golf. What was your screen time? Five hours a day, average. Yeah.

You're not too busy to play golf. You're too busy not to play

golf or not to work out or not to go on a walk or not

to do, you know, read a book. Yes. Yeah. Okay,

the last question for you. If you stop journaling,

what do you think would happen to you, and how do you think it

would impact you?

Well, it'd be a change of routine. Right. So it

disrupt. You know,

I don't. I don't. People need routines. I think

to a certain extent, that's okay to get off them every once in a while.

But when you. It'd be a change of routine. So that'd be

something. But it another thing, you, you wouldn't have

that time to sit down and self

examine what you've done. And I think

that would, it would take some of the

joy out of those day to day

experiences if you didn't stop and think about them

and write them down where you can remember. And that's another thing it does is

help you remember what your. What you were

thinking and some things that you might want to.

You might want to stick with you. So yeah,

it'd be a change in the way you think.

I think you'd be less satisfied with life. You'd miss some of

the. I think you'd miss some of that

joy or peace maybe that comes with that

self reflection that, that you do on a daily

basis. It definitely forces

you to slow down. Yeah.

And silence the world around you and just

focus on what's in your head and what's bothering you or what's

making you happy. Yep. So many things that are

noise and it gives you the truth to stay

grounded. So I mean be very. I can certainly, as I have convinced

myself that it's not necessary. But even talking about it right now,

I'm more excited to do it. So you're gonna journal

tonight? I will journal tonight. Okay. Is that a

solid commitment? That's a solid commitment. What time this

evening? I would. Eight o'. Clock. That's my wind down

time starts and my wind down time does get sucked

out with other things that aren't as good. But usually it's unproductive things.

It's like watching the news on YouTube videos is a

bad habit I've developed. Just saying it's okay, but a lot of time

and not good. Yeah. So really good. So, hey, if

you found this podcast helpful, I would encourage you to check out Shatterproof

Yourself Light. It's a free mini course with seven

small steps to a giant leap in your confidence.

It's designed for you, the business leader, and for you, the individual.

There's a worksheet that you fill out along with that. And the great

part about that worksheet is it's gonna inspire you to make a commitment.

Inspire you to make commitments in each of those seven areas. And just one commitment

can change your life. Just like one conversation can change your life

has a huge. Makes a huge difference. So as you heard Nick talk today and

you've heard Kelsey talk today, and you heard us discuss this content of

journaling, what inspired you the most that you want to take action on I want

you to write that down. Do something with it. Like make a commitment

to make a change and take action today. Because that's how change

happens. 80% of change is because you take took some kind of an action.

20% is gaining insight. It's great. Listen to a podcast, so you finish your run,

but let's go do something about it. Do that with any great

podcast. You do something with the content.

So you'll make my day today. And you make Nicks and Kelsey's if you give

us a rating and review on Apple or Spotify and then share this content with

a friend. If you know somebody that's a. A leader who you think might be

really resistant, it could be great to just say, check this out. There's this guy,

Nick. He was a really grouchy leader and now he has a lot

of insight and, you know, used to be really mean and nasty running a

construction company, and now he's really friendly and warm and this would

be great, you know, like, send it to somebody. Get somebody to check it out.

You'll make my day. Subscribe and leave a rating and review on

Apple or Spotify. So to decide means that you're eliminating other options. Your legacy

is the impact you, your life has on other people. There's no positive change until

you decide to change. Your legacy depends on you taking action. I want to

go ahead and close the way I always do. Make it your mission today, this

day, to live the life you want to be remembered for. Ten years after you're

gone. You decide your legacy, nobody else. I appreciate you

greatly and I'll see you next time.