199. Stop Avoiding This: 3 Leadership Decisions That Change Everything
Welcome to the Decide youe Legacy podcast. This is episode
199. And today we're going to talk about.
Stop avoiding this. Three leadership decisions that
change everything. I'm your host, Adam Gragg. I'm a
coach and a family therapist, and I founded Decide youe Legacy in
2012. I started this specific podcast actually
back in 2020 in the midst of COVID And now we're near.
Well, 200th episode is coming up, and we're near
50,000 downloads. The mission is still the same.
We help people. We help leaders stop avoiding what matters.
We help leadership teams stop avoiding what matters and start taking
meaningful action. So today, today
I work with business owners and leadership teams. We work with them
and often family businesses, where the real
challenge isn't strategy, it's actually alignment.
It's communication. It does apply to strategy. It's communication
on the conversations that they are avoiding. Because
when those conversations happen, everything changes.
Decisions get made faster, trust improves,
execution follows. And so in each episode of the
Decide youe Legacy podcast, Decide youe Legacy podcast, I give you three decisions
that you can make to move forward
with practical tools, simple frameworks and ideas
that you can actually use and apply starting today.
So listen, like you're going to teach this to somebody else,
even one of your kids. So let's go ahead and jump into the content.
Here's the core idea. Today, most leaders, Most leaders
don't struggle because they don't know what to do. They
struggle because they're avoiding the
conversations that they know they need to have. They
stay on the surface, and here's
what that creates. And sometimes they are not aware of this. In fact,
most of the time, they're not actually aware of this. So it creates stress and
anxiety for them. It creates a lack of clarity
within themselves and for their team. It creates frustration,
it creates slow decisions, and it
erodes trust with other people. But on the
other side of that, when you do face things, you grow
in your confidence. Even though you may not be pleased
with your performance, you're honest about it and you're facing it,
and you are gaining confidence in the process. You're learning,
you're gaining clarity, you're improving your relationships because trust is
improving. And you actually have more free time because you're getting
decisions made, you're getting things done. You're not stuck
focusing on these elephants and not making progress. And, you
know, profitability actually increases, which is a huge deal, because
profit is a sign that you're running your business
well. It's a reward for Running your business well, and it
matters. And this topic matters. Little story I
want to share with you, and it's hard for me to share. I had to
face this actually today, so it hit me really hard and in a way
I actually didn't expect. So I've been doing this workout program called
75 Hard. You can look it up if you want to know. There's these specific
things you do every day. It's very rigid, and it's a great process.
It's something I've attempted three times, and I
failed. I failed because I didn't get it
done. And here's the story. I went through this process of 75
hard the third time, and I got to day. I think we got to day
20, and I missed two workouts. And I'm doing this with
my friend named Luke. Business owner, great guy.
I didn't want to tell Luke that I had missed those workouts. Not because of
actually the workouts, but because of what it meant to my
ego, into my image, and how he would view me
wanting to be the guy who follows through, wanting to be perfect.
And I told myself, if I tell Luke, and I
won't lie to you and say I considered not telling him and just
going on, but that was something I couldn't make peace with
if I. I told myself if I tell him, I'll let him down.
I told myself that maybe that will throw him off track on his
progress with 75 hard. I told myself that maybe from
that point on, he's going to see me differently. And that
wasn't the truth. I don't even know what his response is yet because I just
sent him the text telling him that I had missed my two workouts. But the
real truth is that I didn't want to see. I didn't want to be
seen differently. I was protecting my ego. I
was protecting what I felt was like a seat at his table,
and it was my image. That's avoidance.
That's not leadership. And this is what
leaders do. This is exactly what leaders do. They
show up where it matters, honestly,
with integrity. They step into it and they show up and they
have the hard conversation. So when tension rises
within you like it did with me with 75 hard and
Luke, you have. You have three options.
You can react. You can react. You can
withdraw and avoid and procrastinate, or you can lead.
And today I'm going to give you three decisions that will change how
you show up in those moments.
Decision number one, Stay out of the
noise. Stay out of the Ego. Stay away from the tangents, stay
away from the drama. Get to the core. Like
in my case, the core was my image and how Luke would actually view me.
Kelsey, my executive assistant, Our executive assistant actually called me
out on this recently based on one of our
7Up meetings. I can get sidetracked in these meetings.
We meet every Monday at 9:30. I layer issues
instead of getting straight to the core and it looks productive,
but it's actually not. It's actually avoidance. It's actually not wanting to
have the hard conversations. It shows up in these
meetings as me talking about the same issue repeatedly
and making excuses and blaming circumstances and blaming
other people, blaming other vendors, blaming my own
lack of confidence, whatever. It may be going to the emotional
side, but it's not changing behavior.
And that's not problem solving. That's drama. That's
going on a tangent. That's avoidance. That's me
not facing the core issue. And a lot of times it shows up
as perfectionism and procrastination.
It shows up as perfectionism and procrastination.
Drama is often a substitute for real
courage. So in your next
meeting, ask, are we
talking about the real issue right now?
If not, interrupt that cycle.
Pause with them
and pause within yourself. Interrupt it. What's the real
issue that we need to solve here?
So I wrote a breakdown of how to have these courageous conversations
and I'm going to link in the show notes here to a
blog post that I wrote maybe a year or two ago. Go ahead and check
it out and read it. If this is something, if there's something
you're avoiding decision number two.
As a leader, you are somebody who is mining. You're
digging deeper for conflict instead of avoiding it. They're all
looking at you to do this as the leader. And this is where most
teams get stuck. Leaders don't address
each other directly. People are frustrated, but they
don't actually say it. And then they build resentment. And
that's the way you build resentment. That's the way that
you have long standing resentment. Teams talk around issues
based on performance and behaviors instead of talking
through them and getting to the other side.
I see this all the time. And when you ask
people when you recognize this, if you're the leader, what are you afraid of?
What are you afraid of? You can open up a door to having honest
discussions if you ask yourself that question. What are you afraid of?
Why are you not having this conversation? Are you afraid of losing your seat at
the table? Are you afraid of being excluded? Are you afraid of being judged what
are you afraid will happen if you address the core issue? Will you lose business
at such a high level that you feel your life's going to fall apart and
your business is going to fall apart if you address the core issue? Those
are things to lean into. And when you tap into that emotion and you add
truth to it and perspective to it through your team and other people's
perspectives, it's going to change everything. People
don't avoid conflict because they don't see it. They
avoid it because it's uncomfortable, because it might require
them to look at themselves and change. So when
you need to address something and you know
you need to address things, you know, if you're honest with yourself because you've been
avoiding it, say what you've been letting slide in that
interaction, in that email, hopefully face to face as
much as you possibly can. But it is appropriate at times to use other means.
Be specific. Share the impact.
Don't let the expectation not be set in
that interaction. Ask for their take, ask for their opinion and listen.
Listen. So I had a leader recently that had brought up to me a situation
that they had avoided a number of different times. We walked through those
five different points. Be specific. What is the issue that he was
avoiding facing? Well, he wanted to face it with one of his leaders, but what
is the issue that he wants the behavior he sees in one of his leaders
that he's not addressing? Share the impact that has on the team on
their communication, on the progress of the business. Share the
expectation that you want to see changed. Ask for their take on it
and then listen. And then listen. And that may be the
majority of the conversation because you're getting them and you're going to have to pause
and be okay with those silent moments
where the other person thinks and in some cases is called on the
carpet towards accountability, which is a way to help people.
Accountability equals support. Accountability
does not equal being mean. Most people
avoid conflict because they. Not because they don't
care. They avoid it because they don't know how.
So when you feel that tension rising up inside of you, what
am I not saying right now? Go ahead and say it.
Say it clearly. Be direct
and then don't over explain. Which is another pattern I see a lot of leaders
falling into. They're trying to convince by over explaining.
Don't do that. Let it sit with them. Ask for what you want.
Express what the behavior is and ask them the question, how
does that sit with you? What's your perspective on that? The third
decision as a leader, to make is to
lead instead of reacting, lead instead of
withdrawing. When the tension rises inside of you, you really have
three different decisions that you can make in that moment and you're
responsible for for what you do. You can react
by getting defensive, by arguing your point, by being
overly emotional, by throwing your hands up in the air, by
getting sucked into the drama. You can withdraw by avoiding,
by making excuses why you can't meet, why you can't have that conversation,
just shutting down internally or being in the conversation and not actually engaging,
not bringing in any hope. Or you can lead.
You can retain your power by leading, by being clear, by being
calm, and then by being direct. Leadership is
not convincing someone that you are right. Leadership is
being clear about how you're going to show up in that interaction.
Walking on eggshells isn't a personality trait that you have
or someone else has where they just make you walk on
eggshells. Walking on eggshells is your decision
to get sucked into the drama, to go down that tangent.
It's your decision to bring the truth out,
to address the fear, to be clear, to be
direct and to engage. So when you're reacting
or withdrawing, you're protecting yourself. That's
your ego showing up, that's your self protection showing up.
Leadership is stepping out of that and recognizing that that
is protection. That is my ego, that is my image.
And choosing to lead anyway.
Choosing to lead anyway. In those
moments ask am I reacting, am I
withdrawing or am I leading? And then choose, say what you
actually want, stay steady, don't try to
convince and over explain. I see that with leaders. Sometimes they're
afraid of actually even having these types of interactions because they feel
they're going to get so emotional because they feel that they're going to over
explain and get into to a debate. But that is still their
choice. That is them choosing to walk on eggshells in those
interactions. But they have a different choice they can make. They can choose to
be steady, to be clear, to be calm. They can choose to follow
up when they don't get a response. Here are those
three decisions again. So number one, stay out of the noise, stay out
of the drama and get at the core. Number two, mind for
conflict, be the leader who people know is going to get at the core issue.
Don't avoid it. And number three is choose to lead, not
to react, which is a choice as well. And not to withdraw. Choose to step
into it and lead calmly and clearly. So here's the
question for you, the listener. What's one conversation
that you know you need to have right now. You all. You already
know it. You already know it because you're
probably potentially complaining to other people about it but not actually addressing
it directly. You already know it because you're creating triangulation.
You already know it because it's causing you tremendous anxiety. Low
grade under the surface anxiety. You already know it.
But the question is, will you lead through through it?
Let me challenge you before you go. If nothing
changes after this episode, it wasn't
this content. It was your willingness to
act on this content. So what are you
avoiding right now? The conversation.
You're avoiding the decision. You're avoiding the step you
already know clearly that you need to take.
Don't overthink it. Don't wait for perfection.
Don't wait for perfect clarity. Don't wait for the perfect strategy.
You decide because
there's no positive change until you do. And your
legacy actually depends on it. And it's being
shaped by what you're choosing or what you are
avoiding today. Decide,
act and repeat. Live
the life today that you want to be remembered for.
You decide your legacy. Nobody else. You can't blame
it on other people. I will see you next episode and in
the process, we're going to have episode for you. Number 200.
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Number 200. We got something very special for you. I will see you
then.